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Last Time in the Wet

06 Jul 2008 at 12:30

Barring being caught out in the rain, today's the last day I'm riding when it's wet... It's simply not worth it anymore. It might be if one of any sock-cucking brake and pad manufacturers could make something that lasts more then 90 minutes, hell, I'd pay £100 for a set of pads if they lasted 1000 miles in the wet, but a wear rate greater than 13,500% compared to the dry is just ludicrous.

Seriously 100 quid per set, no, make that 150quid per set, seriously make me some and when they've lasted 1000 miles in the wet, I'll give you 150 quid.***

So, that's me being a whipping boy for an industry based on bad performing products. Maybe if the mountain biking world didn't consist moslty of trail-centre-riding poseurs then there'd be more of a lever* to get the brake companies to make stuff that works, I'm very disappointed in the attitude of Hope being a "local" company their only response to calls for better pads is "you've not set your brakes up properly" - go f-yourself, Hope.

* yes, hilarious near-pun

** Unfortunately my bike doesn't have canti mounts so I can't test Maguras or V-Brakes, but I presume they're just as bad, although I'd be find with destroying a rim every couple of months when it's wet.

*** Seriously, £150, that would constitute a bargain. - 15p/m rather than 40p/m for normal pads.

Extra: my crank arm kept coming lose, too, and the one of the bearings in the BB has come out of the cup - that's two superstar bb's this has happened on now. I guess you pay little you get crap. It makes me sad that in this day and age engineers still can't make stuff that works, or that they just focus on the easy end of the market - sort it out, things are only going to get worse, too, as equipment gets even lighter so that JohnnySlowMotion can trim 50gms off their 6inch ego-machine for their weekly lap of the local trail centre.

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oMatt

15:36 06 Jul

I think you might wanna change your title bar in light of your recent posts.

davehttp://twinklydave.com

16:09 06 Jul

my superstar ceramic BB is going back tomorrow as the bearings in it have seized completely...after 2 rides!

admittedly one of those was mountain mayhem, but still, less than 200 miles and it's dead!
crap!


conversely, the 105 bb on the road bike was still fairly smooth 12,000 miles after first fitting it, so i think it's just an inability to seal things properly that's the problem

matthttp://mattmagic.com

16:32 06 Jul

You probably didn't fit it properly, Dave, Ill send you a patronising PDF on how to fit it ;)

Buy me a CNC machine and I'll make proper bits :)

Raoulhttp://www.raouligan.co.uk

19:38 06 Jul

Now I'm getting really puzzled, I can understand how you get through loads of things because you ride lots. I don't understand the brake pads lasting one ride still though, 40 miles is a reasonably long ride, but I can't believe everyone round your way is only getting 40 miles out of a set of pads, Samurai, Simon, Dave. Bearings and stuff through hard use yes I just don't get the brakes issue.
At this rate the money you spend on pads you'd be better moving somewhere with trails with less grit, you'd save a fortune, or just run all the time. Probably not the time to say I must have put on nearly a 1000 miles on a set of original issue Shimano XT pads, the sit a good distance from the rotor and never seem to rub really, maybe I'm just lucky.

matthttp://mattmagic.com

20:14 06 Jul

answer: because it's so gritty.

and Dave DOES go though pads at the same rate, however he spends more time on the road when it's bad weather, so he doesn't go though as *many* pads.

You're not lucky you ride somewhere of low abrasion (I presume) and (I presume) you ride slower than me.

and this is just the worlds way of saying 'matt whatever you like to do I am going to destroy and leave you living in misery til I kill you.'

matthttp://mattmagic.com

20:15 06 Jul

"early a 1000 miles on a set of original issue Shimano XT pads, the sit a good distance from the rotor"

mine don\t sit that far away, not that you can adjust that, and the grit particles are pretty much the same size as that space.

don't forget I wear about 10prs shorts and 3-4 saddles out a year too because of the grit.

triohttp://trio25.blogspot.com

08:20 07 Jul

I could hear mine wearing away on yesterdays ride, fun fun!

10pairs of shorts in a year is impressive matt!

matthttp://mattmagic.com

08:59 07 Jul

I've just re-fitted my cranks, my bb is full of grit already.

Oh and look, it's pissing down again.

Stevehttp://furiouscycling.blogspot.com

09:51 07 Jul

Yes, but you have fitted them correctly, right?

matthttp://mattmagic.com

10:06 07 Jul

yeah..... you put the metal against the rotor don't you?

D0NKhttp://donkidave.spaces.live.com/

11:11 07 Jul

Ooh can you feel the venom and bile?

Yep Raoul you seriously can shred a set of pads round here in one ride. On my better bike s I tend to mince around puddles and not ride in heavy rain - not something matt would approve of I'm sure - so pads last a while but on my singlespeed in any weather and just blasting straight through puddles and mud my pads vaporize too.

matthttp://mattmagic.com

11:38 07 Jul

Hooray!

Of course, all this doesn't really happen, it's all made up, yes, no seriously we've all set up out bikes wrong and the dirts really not like course sand paper it's actually crushed butterfly wings.

triohttp://trio25.blogspot.com

12:44 07 Jul

My pads are non-existent now after a short ride this morning! I'm assuming you won't be heading out matt?

matthttp://mattmagic.com

13:51 07 Jul

My brakes don't work at all today.. and no.

they should just make pure steel pads - I tried to get 4 backing plates in once, but they don't work when you do that :(

D0NKhttp://donkidave.spaces.live.com/

15:04 07 Jul

I think I'll be switching back to Vs before winter, maybe with a ceramic rims if Ive got the funds, even if they only last a ride they're a LOT cheaper than disc pads. 2prs plus holders for £6 in LBS. I reckon Vs will last longer than a ride (maybe not with ceramics) pity the new SS frame I had in mind is disc only.

matthttp://mattmagic.com

15:09 07 Jul

Yeah, my frame is disc only maybe bob jackson or argos can weld canti mounts on.

I'd have been on the v-brake train for a while if I could use them on this bike.

perhaps I should have a fry and wet bike, but that's a pain in the arse and means I have to keep 2 bikes running.

D0NKhttp://donkidave.spaces.live.com/

15:48 07 Jul

Erm you could build up the surly again - thats got canti mounts hasn't it?

matthttp://mattmagic.com

15:53 07 Jul

Yes, but I have no wheels for it as all the hubs broke and I've not got them fixed yet as it'll cost loads to send them off.

although I should get them fixed so I can sell them and buy something that works for 1/4 of the price ;)

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